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  Could this be the end of JWs? What are the consequences if it is?

  by Teddnzo in

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  2. scandals

  multiple very serious allegations against tony and then huge efforts to remove him from all pictures and videos, have to admit it doesn’t look good.. once the pennsylvania investigation becomes public knowledge and front page news it will be very very hard for 8 million pimis.. is it possible that this could be the largest problem the branch has ever faced?

  larger than 1975, the overlapping generations or any other ‘test of faith’.

  many will feel heartbroken and betrayed.

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  Whats the Jeh bit ?
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  Are adjustable rate mortgages the norm in the UK?

  by SydBarrett in

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  2. friends

  perhaps an odd subject for a presumably religious focused discussion board, but there are a fair number of brits here... i'm an american, but i sometimes listen to the podcast of the james o'brien radio show.

  (a brit political radio show where people call in).

  the past few months, a common topic has been people calling in discussing how hard they are getting hit financially because of a dramatic rise in interest rates on their mortgage.

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  So were wages..and most things needed to survive with.
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  Are adjustable rate mortgages the norm in the UK?

  by SydBarrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  perhaps an odd subject for a presumably religious focused discussion board, but there are a fair number of brits here... i'm an american, but i sometimes listen to the podcast of the james o'brien radio show.

  (a brit political radio show where people call in).

  the past few months, a common topic has been people calling in discussing how hard they are getting hit financially because of a dramatic rise in interest rates on their mortgage.

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  All these whingers moaning about mortgage rates..i was paying 15% in the late 80s..
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  So, 60 Years Ago

  by titch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, folks, 60 years ago, starting on september 1st, i believe, we, local witnesses in southern california, had the "privilege" of attending the "around the world assembly", at, of all places, the rose bowl, in pasadena.

  (i think that it was an 8-day assembly) i was 9 years old then, almost ready to start 4th grade.

  so, was anyone else, on this site, at that assembly?

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  the last big assembly i attended was at the old Wembley ( UK ) stadium--about 1969 / 70 ?--it rained non stop. I wasnt long married ( 1st time) and my born in wife expected me to sit in the rain for hours.
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  Greenlees, Chapman and Chitty

  by Libby in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so after being rudely awakened by a cat fight outside (it's 3am here in the uk) and then proceeding to go outside to rescue my cats from the neighbourhood tom....... i'm now laying wide awake trying to make sense of jw "truth".

  (it's all my mind does these days, the lights gone on and won't turn off).

  anyway i found myself reading about the gb and came across these fellows , greenlees, chapman and chitty.

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  EasyPrompt2 days ago
  Haha! 😆
  I am not "bonkers", as you will realize when Jehovah tears down the WTBT$ shortly.

  does this "shortly " mean--soon--as in the WTsoc idea of armageddon being so near ?
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  So, 60 Years Ago

  by titch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, folks, 60 years ago, starting on september 1st, i believe, we, local witnesses in southern california, had the "privilege" of attending the "around the world assembly", at, of all places, the rose bowl, in pasadena.

  (i think that it was an 8-day assembly) i was 9 years old then, almost ready to start 4th grade.

  so, was anyone else, on this site, at that assembly?

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  yep--twickers...i was 15. slept in a pile of straw in a tent full of other teenage lads. i remember .the thick red book. No idea what it was about
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  In Response to Anony Mous regarding the 144,000 and other questions...

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  still, you hold onto false teachings of the wtbts which are only there for the enrichment of its chiefs.. as pointed out, the rest of the book of revelation is figurative, yet you hold that the number 144,000 is literal.

  the wtbts currently says that this number is limited to those running the wtbts and that anyone claiming to be part of it outside that self-selecting group could be mentally ill.. by what reasoning (not from wtbts origin) do you believe only 144,000 people will be ‘saved’, and how do you know who is part of this self-selected group, given virtually no other religious denomination does even remotely believe in the literalism of revelation.

  do they have to be jws?

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  @easy prompt

  Of course i will still talk to you. Please understand there have been many members on here over the years who have had their lives ruined by the Watchtower cult and come here either to seek help--or just find others of like mind. So please just be yourself and stop ramming the bible down our throats. OK ?
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  In Response to Anony Mous regarding the 144,000 and other questions...

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  still, you hold onto false teachings of the wtbts which are only there for the enrichment of its chiefs.. as pointed out, the rest of the book of revelation is figurative, yet you hold that the number 144,000 is literal.

  the wtbts currently says that this number is limited to those running the wtbts and that anyone claiming to be part of it outside that self-selecting group could be mentally ill.. by what reasoning (not from wtbts origin) do you believe only 144,000 people will be ‘saved’, and how do you know who is part of this self-selected group, given virtually no other religious denomination does even remotely believe in the literalism of revelation.

  do they have to be jws?

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  @Easy Prompt

  " Why are you on this site, @stanlivedeath?"

  just an old habit now.

  I hadnt realised you are a woman--interesting bio.

  May i offer a suggestion--? Please lay off quoting the bible--its of no interest to hardened atheists like me--and numerous other members on here.
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  In Response to Anony Mous regarding the 144,000 and other questions...

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  still, you hold onto false teachings of the wtbts which are only there for the enrichment of its chiefs.. as pointed out, the rest of the book of revelation is figurative, yet you hold that the number 144,000 is literal.

  the wtbts currently says that this number is limited to those running the wtbts and that anyone claiming to be part of it outside that self-selecting group could be mentally ill.. by what reasoning (not from wtbts origin) do you believe only 144,000 people will be ‘saved’, and how do you know who is part of this self-selected group, given virtually no other religious denomination does even remotely believe in the literalism of revelation.

  do they have to be jws?

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  EasyPrompt

  The "great evening meal of God" will not involve literal birds. The context shows that here birds means angels. The rest of Revelation shows that the angels take part in the judgments against God's enemies.

  Revelation 19:17,18

  "I saw also an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice and said to all the birds that fly in midheaven: “Come here, be gathered together to the great evening meal of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of military commanders and the flesh of strong men and the flesh of horses and of those seated on them, and the flesh of all, of freemen as well as of slaves and of small ones and great.”"

  jeesus--ive heard it all now. Angels will be cannibals !

  i can understand why you got disfellowshipped. You must have been a sheer joy in your congregation.

  Why are you on this site ? I think you've been on here previously.
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  Mandated Shunning is a Crime

  by Lee Marsh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.

  shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.

  mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.

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    FatFreek 200514 hours ago
    I've been out of WT for 45 years but the shunning from my two children didn't begin shunning till sometime after the Ray Franz debacle.
    The children are now 63 and 60 years old respectively.

    i know how you must feel--2 of mine have been shunning me for 40 years now. Ive never met their partners and kids either.